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Old 25-01-2017, 11:59 AM   #1
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This brand spanking new thread focuses on the latest developments and rumours regarding NBA expansion in the near future perhaps, say, circa 2019-20 for their inaugural seasons--and maybe even look back at previous NBA expansion sagas. Remember that possible NBA expansion thread I created over a decade ago with prospective cities? We're getting a strong sense that expansion will eventually happen at some point.

Let's state the obvious right now: Seattle, without a doubt, is definitely first in line getting an expansion team after what wrongheadedly happened to the city back in 2005-07, its beloved SuperSonics, and its SuperSonics fans. Being the first NBA team in the Pacific Northwest back in 1967, it will make great sense for the NBA to refortify its regional footprint there with Portland. All it needs is resolve the arena issues, which we'll get into. Several other cities are reportedly considered to join Seattle, more so with some than others, right now: Louisville, Vancouver, Las Vegas, Kansas City, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Montreal, and a fast-rising Mexico City.

I'll make some updates here on the very first post and will make future others with subsequent ones as we go along. Any references to NBA expansion involving Vancouver and Montreal will automatically head towards their respective threads by me.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:54 AM   #2
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Getting into the candidates with my fuller thoughts on the cities coming up shortly. Right now for this thread, it's looking increasingly unlikely that Louisville, located in a state that loves basketball and has a rich history behind it, won't have the NBA come its way to town with really little headway to show for it. Way too many obstacles and question marks right now to make this happen, which I'll get to soon, as the Louisville Courier-Journal points out in an in-depth article:
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...tion/97103596/
http://arenadigest.com/2017/01/30/nb...king-unlikely/
http://arenadigest.com/2014/08/05/nb...on-tap-likely/
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:48 AM   #3
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The Sports Post takes a look at several of the prospective non-Seattle NBA expansion markets and gives an evaluation of each one. Buffalo is not part of this list. Neither is Vancouver, save for a fleeting mention. But Hartford is. Never considered Albuquerque as a potential NBA. Nor is there an apparent clamoring for one there; Phoenix, Denver, and Utah all haven't tapped into the city. Don't understand why Pittsburgh doesn't earn more consistent attention, if at all. Mexico City is the only non-American city in this list--and I'll get to it very soon. It's got one thing wrong: my hometown St. Louis actually does have a viable and usable arena option in the Scottrade Center (soon to be called the TD Ameritrade Center), the home of the NHL's St. Louis Blues, that will get some upgrades. Maybe it's no due to the fact that the Sprint Center is younger with no designs for a separate NBA arena in St. Louis:
http://thesportspost.com/nba-expansi...eattle-mexico/
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Old 14-02-2017, 12:15 PM   #4
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Louisville Metro Council passes a resolution in approving the NBA/WNBA expansion support in the city last week despite the list of serious hurdles mentioned in the Louisville Courier-Journal. Interestingly, this article also mentions Omaha in the NBA expansion mix:
http://www.lanereport.com/73398/2017...xpansion-team/

Louisville hasn't had serious talks with the NBA as of yet. Nor is there immediate officially expansion interest from the league we know of. But the Louisville Arena Authority certainly isn't closing the door to the NBA with the KFC Yum! Center NBA-ready:
http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvill...snt-close.html

You certainly better believe the NBA will seriously and eventually look into expanding with 2 franchises. And of course like with any large business, the money revenue and how it's distributed up among the other 30 teams (not including players) with immediate benefits off the expansion fees is paramount while the expansion entries likely won't be involved in the revenue sharing pot for a set period. Read what it will all take. Says San Jose, Virginia Beach, and Anahiem could be expansion/relocation contenders:
http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/13/14...le-adam-silver

But for right now the NBA isn't exactly nearer to throw Seattle a much-deserved re-entry bone even with all the excitement coming from 16WinsARing. Adam Silver and Co is right to take things nice and slow:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/seattle...182641022.html
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Old 16-02-2017, 10:43 AM   #5
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SB Nation just presents the top 13 NBA expansion candidates that includes top contenders Seattle, Mexico City, Louisville, Vancouver, Kansas City, and Hampton Roads (Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Newport News) and some somewhat surprising suggested markets like Omaha, a second Chicago franchise, and Austin. Has some also-rans that didn't make the cut like Baltimore, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Nashville, Columbus, Birmingham, and even London. No Montreal or Buffalo, though. With some cities like St. Louis, it doesn't get into the depths of for and against too much like the more significant contenders ahead of it--like even KC. I'll deal with many of these cities very soon. Already doing so with Vancouver and Montreal:
http://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/15/14...ities-are-next
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Old 24-02-2017, 12:04 PM   #6
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Seattle's prospects will get examined in depth here by yours truly. Some Seattle arena watchers say the city will get an NHL expansion franchise first to help even out the NHL's Western Conference teams with the upcoming Las Vegas Golden Knights that's slated to play next season than see the SuperSonics' return (not to mention satisfy Vancouver Canucks's decades-long desire to have a Pacific Northwest NHL rival that included Portland's unsuccessful attempt in the mid-90s NHL expansion derby--unless Portland itself may get a word again). Chris Hansen, the hedge fund manager who plans to bring them back, is bankrolling the efforts of a new arena and prefers the NBA first:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/seattle...194940668.html
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-spo...l-rumors-swirl
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:51 PM   #7
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Some interested prospective (and publicly unknown) Louisville NBA investors are eyeing renovating Freedom Hall, the 61-year old former home of the Louisville Cardinals and the ABA's Kentucky Colonels, for a possible and seemingly longshot expansion franchise to get it NBA-ready with all the bells and whistles like its younger contemporaries, if the team can't have the KFC Yum! Center as its home. Upgrading would cost $150 million that requires a major regutting. Louisville reportedly has three different NBA investor groups competing for the privilege to get it:
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...hall/98694508/
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...erth/98798274/
http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvill...-it-could.html
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:55 AM   #8
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Obviously Pittsburgh is an underappreciated and overlooked longshot in getting an NBA expansion franchise because other cities are ahead of them (even Vancouver), though it can provide balance to the state of Pennsylvania with Philadelphia 300 miles away at the state's other end like in the NHL, MLB, and NFL to add to the in-state sports rivalry--as well as the Cavs in Cleveland. Pittsburgh does support its other top-flight pro teams remarkably well. If admitted, Pittsburgh might provide a more permanent home for the NBDL's Erie BayHawks as an affiliate after Atlanta Hawks are done with them. Prospects aren't very good for the BayHawks presently to stick around as an independent or trying to attract a NBA mother club. Since the one-season Pittsburgh Ironmen in the NBA's forerunner the BAA back in its first season (1947-48 ) and then the ABL's Rens in the early 1960s, the Steel City had some practice with mostly minor-league pro basketball with the ABA's Pipers being the most successful by winning a title in the ABA's first season in 1968 only to move to Minneapolis to fill the void left by the Muskies there. Came back and became the less-than-successful Condors to low attendance. Years passed afterwards without pro basketball, then came the CBA's Piranhas in the mid 1990s that went into the CBA Championship Series but fell short, then the somewhat successful Xplosion that started out as the Pennsylvania Pit Bulls owned by former ABA star Freddie Lewis, the Hardhats, the Phantoms, and now the Steel City Yellow Jackets. Could be a sensible choice nonetheless with a successful basketball programs with the University of Pittsburgh Panthers that can expand the rabid sports fan base towards high-level NBA basketball. But make sure there's strong public pro basketball interest, which I'm not sure Pittsburgh currently has. And that's with two brothers going through GoFundMe to pay billboards to attract NBA's attention about getting a team.

Certainly there's an arena present with the 19,100-seat PPG Paints Arena (for the Pittsburgh Paints Group, formerly the Console Energy Center), which has been around for 6 years that the NHL's defending Stanley Cup champs Penguins call home, hosts some college basketball tournament games, and costs $300 million. Money's there with plenty of billionaires along with some private wealth. Potential's there. All it needs is an interested prospective owner, clearly a question mark. Maybe Henry Hillman, who owns the arena. So far, nothing materialized. Not even a rumour. Even when ex-commissioner David Stern mentioned the Steel City as a potential NBA franchise in 2013. Almost a given Pittsburgh's NBA possible team would wear black and yellow:
http://thepenn.org/2016/02/02/nba-coming-to-pittsburgh/
https://hoopshabit.com/2016/10/28/nb...nba-expansion/
http://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsbur...nt?oid=1904556
http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.co...ansion-cities/

Another list of potential NBA expansion cities:
https://unprofession.com/nba-expansi...s-c5bbfe7955ad
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Old 28-04-2017, 06:18 AM   #9
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When asked about the possibility of Las Vegas joining the NBA, Deputy Commish Mark Tatum says no to NBA expansion right away overall. No plans the NBA to join the NHL and NFL into the desert soon despite having the longest and best exposure in Las Vegas from the Utah Jazz de facto home games to the 2007 NBA All Star Weekend to the Vegas Summer League; they're taking a wait and see attitude approach as to how the Golden Knights and Raiders fare, respectively, in determining how the NBA will tackle the city. But Las Vegas, through MGM Resorts, may also try its hands on an existing NBA franchise...
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/ap...-vegas-market/
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/oc...ract-nba-team/

Tatum adds it'll be 4-5 additional years before the NBA expansion happens. Even for Seattle. Priority right now is as for the Oak View Group is renovating the Key Arena in making it more NBA-ready. Tim Leiweke also doesn't apologize for the Sprint Center's ill-fated attempts to bring the NBA (as well as the NHL) back into Kansas City in the form of the Hornets a decade ago:
http://www.sonicsrising.com/2017/4/2...ghest-priority
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Old 19-05-2017, 07:54 AM   #10
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Some of the latest goings-on involving Seattle's quest for an NBA return include a $564 million Key Arena proposal by Oak View Group that includes digging the floor even lower in that historic arena than what was done back in 1994-95 during the first time around with the hopes of attracting back the SuperSonics and the NHL. There's also a warring Seattle Center Coliseum bid from Seattle Partners, made up of AEG and the Hudson Pacific Properties, that plans to spend $500 million in renovations to call it that again with seating for 18,113 for basketball and 17,120 for hockey:
http://crosscut.com/2017/05/new-key-...-preservation/
http://bottomline.seattle.gov/2017/0...e=OED-arena-pg
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/n...-coliseum.html

Ray Allen took to Instagram and heartfeltedly urges the NBA to bring Seattle back. He wants to help out now that he's retired in anyway to get things done:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...instagram-post

Multiple NBA and NHL execs and owners prefer the Key Arena over the proposed SoDo Arena project with some support for AEG:
http://www.king5.com/news/local/aren...tion/435434771

Obviously Seattle has plenty of impassioned fans who still revel in the history and memories of the franchise. SuperSonics still hold quite a following locally and nationwide with investors ready to buy ownership while the NBA remains indifferent to expansion right now. And one of them was Chris Cornell. The Soundgarden and Audioslave frontman sadly passed away suddenly late last night after a Detroit performance at 52. He, like many lifelong SuperSonics fans in the region, was infuriated when their heart was ripped out by Oklahoma. In tribute to him, you can hear him express his anger after spotting a fan sporting a Seattle Kevin Durant #35 jersey at a July 30, 2011 George Ampitheater concert with Soundgarden at George, Washington concert four years after the move:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPIyEluRqr0
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Old 26-05-2017, 10:30 AM   #11
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Of course Steve Ballmer won't his Clippers to Seattle. He would never do that with the high amount of money he paid in the Los Angeles market from the odious Donald Sterling. Article goes to add that Seattle, he says, would make a great market for the NBA again (and interestingly explains how the city can do this) but no plans for expansion. Besides, the NBA doesn't feel like moving teams to Seattle (see Sacramento):
https://mynorthwest.com/641198/steve...-the-clippers/
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